One day, while driving, I had a thought about the radiant tubing I was going to be installing in these floors. See, normally, one drills a hole, in the joist and feeds the whole roll through that hole and then through the next until it’s in every joist and then pulls each loop that dangles through the joist cavity to the other end. Well, I didn’t fancy the drilling or pulling aspects and wondered if I could somehow avoid that pain.
My plan, as explained in the video below, was to route the top of the joists and install the tubing before the subfloor. Which I executed and it worked splendidly. I will say it was a pain to have to remember NOT to drive a nail through the tubing. If I did it again here are some guidelines I would use.
Do your layout design beforehand to tell you where to route the holes (which I did)
Mark your joists in one solid line on each end where the routes will be (which I didn’t do)
Your marks will tell you the pipes are X inches from the end of the floor, and you can make a corresponding mark on top of your floor to avoid nailing pipes.
Route a hole 1/4″ larger than your pipe size to let the pipe slide through the hole for adjustment when tacking up
Use staples to hold the pipe into the groove you cut
Tubing
It was great to work with. Which means it stayed pretty flexible, I didn’t have any kinking issues, and yet still seemed durable. I’ve work with some stuff that kept kinking, or was impossible to bend, so this was a nice change.
Tubing layout is a whole post on it’s own, so I’ll just paraphrase. 1/2″ pex shouldn’t be run over 300 feet. The simple answer is by the time hot water has run through 300 feet of 1/2″ pipe it’s cold. If you have 600 square feet to heat, it has to be done in two 300 foot loops or circuits. In my case I had a 20 x 24 floor so I had 480 sq ft, which ended up being two 240 foot loops. I’ll tie these into a header later which is either a simple 3/4″ pipe with 1/2″ ports off of it, or a fancy one pre-built for being a header, with flow control etc.
I think the job you did on the garage is awesome ! Can you relate information about the radiant heat plumbing hardware you used and the company you obtained the hardware from?
Thanks so much for your time !
Steve
Steve,
Thanks for stopping by! I buy my radiant stuff through a number of online shops. I’ve been getting my pex at amazon. And hardware and fittings from pexsupply.com. I’ve also used houseneeds.com. Thanks!
-Adam
Ha, sorry, in my last reply I managed to fat finger BOTH web addresses… So here they are again. I’ve been getting my pex at amazon. And hardware and fittings from pexsupply.com. I’ve also used houseneeds.com
Also, I added a picture of the tubing I used, and if you click on it, it’ll send you to amazon.
Hi Adam-
You did great work on your garage. I am going through the permite process right now on my 30×40 detached garage. It is a big pain in the ass. I am waiting to go to a zoning hearing to get township approval to build it where I want to. Regardless, I am planning on doing a radiant system in the garage floor as well as the 2nd floor. I talked to the people at radiantcompany.com and got a quote of $4,875 for all of the materials I will need to install the system. Just wondering what your thoughts were on that price? I have no clue what to expect. Looking forward to hearing from you and picking your brain about the process. Thanks
Thanks Mike! I’ve liked radiant company in the past. I’ve driven there, they seem like good folks. As far as that quote, I’m not sure what that includes. For my garage I’ve so far only gotten the tubes installed. So I only have the cost of the tubing which is in this post. There are lots of parts in the boiler room that add up WICKED fast. My suggestion is have someone work with you to design it, heat load wise, and then shop around for the small stuff. (check valve, manifolds, pex rings, tees, 90′s etc.) It’s the fittings that add up real quick, and i’ve seen a difference of 50% in price. and when one fitting is 14 bucks, and you could have gotten it for 7 and you need 10 of them…well..it adds up. :) I’ve gotta build the rest soon though, so stay tuned.